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avram ([personal profile] avram) wrote2005-12-13 12:00 am
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War on Wikipedia

Wikipedia’s been in the news a bit recently. John Seigenthaler, former administrative assistant to Robert Kennedy, discovered recently that a prankster had posted a biography of him to Wikipedia, claiming that he‘d been thought to have been involved in the assassinations of the two Kennedy brothers. Painful, but there are assholes all over, and at least he was able to get the offending material changed; try doing that with dead trees. (It took the NY Times 18 months to apologize for falsely accusing Wen Ho Lee of espionage, and all those papers are still out there accusing him in libraries all over the world.)

Some jackass is trying to gin up a class action suit. he claims that it took Seigenthaler “more than four months anguish and hard work” to get his Wikipedia entry changed — clear bullshit, since all Seigenthaler needed to do was log in and change it himself. This is probably a mis-reading of the line from Seigenthaler’s article, in which he says that the false information stood for four months; that’s probably the span between when it was posted and when he saw it.

And that’s about typical of the quality lawsuit site’s arguments. Here, check out the news articles they link to. Right now there’s four of them, all articles on Baou.com. One covers a spat over linking to QuakeAID, an earthquake relief organization, but it doesn’t bother explaining the arguments behind the spat, or that QuakeAID is owned by the Baou Trust. Another goes on about Nazi salutes and socialism and the holocaust (or “Wholecaust”) and holy crap, it’s like an autism sufferer ate a few Ayn Rand books and threw up into the keyboard.

Piling on is Andrew Orlowski, who must have gotten tired of attacking Google. Notice the name Daniel Brandt in in Orlowski’s article, described as a “researcher” and “prominent critic” of Wikipedia? That name sounded familiar, and so I googled around, and it turns out Brandt was the guy behind the anti-Google site Google-Watch, who got upset that Google gave his business site, NameBase, a big link farm, a lower rank than he thought it deserved.
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[personal profile] solarbird 2005-12-13 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
Said jack-ass appears to be the same people as the people behind QuakeAID itself.
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from, aheh, wikipedia...

[personal profile] solarbird 2005-12-13 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
Seen earlier on this Wikipedia entry:
Posing as a separate entity, the owners of QuakeAID are attempting to set up a class action lawsuit against wikipedia at Wikipedia Class Action. Both QuakeAID and the class action lawsuit website display the same post office box and 1-800 phone number in their contact information, as well as the contact information of their subsidiary, Just Volunteers.

The lawsuit web site cites the QuakeAID article, as well as the John Seigenthaler Sr. Wikipedia biography controversy and a user's unsuccessful efforts to add his original research on the Nazi salute to Wikipedia.
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[personal profile] gentlyepigrams 2005-12-13 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
holy crap, it’s like an autism sufferer ate a few Ayn Rand books and threw up into the keyboard.

Just had to say this made me laugh. Beautiful.

[identity profile] noveldevice.livejournal.com 2005-12-13 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I heard the TOTN interview with John Seigenthaler--the reason it stood for four months is because he refused to change it himself. He said it on the air: "It's their mistake and I refuse to change it." When asked who "they" is, he appeared unable to answer, in light of the fact that the Wiki volunteers have been incredibly responsive to his problem. He also claimed on air that anyone who accessed the history would see the lies that were written about him, which is untrue. The Wiki guy (whose name I don't remember, sorry), said that they have deleted all that from the history of that entry, so it no longer exists in any form on Wiki's servers.
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[personal profile] ckd 2005-12-13 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Orlowski also seems to have a hate-on for the EFF, almost as if they took his lunch money away or something.

[identity profile] dhole.livejournal.com 2007-04-11 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Since you linked this on Making Light, it's probably worth noting that the news.baou.com links -- they all dead.